HEALTH PAPERS AND HAULING

[LLazy3]

This subject just never seems to get thru... I just got back from hauling from texas, okla and arkansas and each state I had problems with getting the seller or shippers to get health papers. Let me say this... ITS NOT THE TRUCK DRIVERS RESPONSIBLITLY TO GET THE PAPERS.. 3 shippers tried to get me to take animals without papers and had a advanced notice of almost 3 weeks that I was coming...
This is where I stand, I WILL NOT HAUL YOUR ANIMAL WITHOUT THEM. ITS AGAINST THE LAW.. The northern states just implemented a deal that every rodeo animals has to be TB tested and most require Bangs or Bruc. In wyoming, colo., Neb, south dakota and north dakota, and montana its a $ 5000.00 fine.. your vehicle can be impounded along with the load... THESE FINES CAN BE ASSESSED TO THE TRUCKER AS WELL AS THE OWNER.. THE OWNERS HERDS WILL MOSTLIKELY BE QUARANTINED.. There are people that will haul them but I will not... if you don't have them or won't get them dont' sell the animal. I think that the south is finding out these laws are being changed as well.. as of 2008 no animals can go to Arkansas without being tb tested if they are rodeo... This is going to a normal thing...
I actually listened to one seller tell the vet that it was not his responsiblity it was the buyers... This one person tryed to say the Livestock barn had lost his papers then changed his story to its the vets problem... I left this animal because we could not get the papers in time and I am very sorry... I actually had done business with the buyer of this animal and felt sorry for him for the run around that he was getting...
I would like to thank the customers that I have hauled for and the sellers/ and buyers alike that I have been able to expedite these hauls with... but there are to many risks and I am not going to take those chance... David

[Summerrain]

I would suggest if your selling an animal, get health papers on them, add that into the price your asking, have the papers ready for the buyer. As a buyer I would think you would ask the seller if health papers are ready on the animal. Wouldnt that be a step to ensure your buying an animal thats in good health?

[wblivestock]

David,
I understand what you are saying and :iagree: Its almost the some way going in and out of Canada but harder.


William Winkel
WB Livestock Transport
North Central,WA
Cell 509-670-9221
wbtransport@yahoo.com

[Dan Cresswell]

You did the right thing David
Utah is the same way, can't bring nothing in with out papers
I have had to leave cows in Texas before.
Heath Papers are the sellers responsabilty

[Rafter A Ranch]

I have hauled without papers before but its not worth it. the eastern states are starting to change the rules to get in line with the western states. I think its a good thing. You know that you are buying a healthy animal.

[payetteriverrodeo]

Every horse I haul has to have a current coggins, in some states it lasts 6 months and some it is a year, my bulls must have all test includeing a TB to leave the state. All of these can be done in a week to 10 days turn around, or better depending where you live.

I have speent many years hauling cattle around the country and have always had problems with brandand health papers from sellers trying to save a dollar when in the long run it could cost them much more money than the papers.

Save everyone somme headaches and get the papers in order for the guys hauling them and for the Buyers of your livestock.

Dave

[Summerrain]

If your not sure of a states particular requirements, you can find them online. just type in state health requriements to transport cattle. It brings up many state Ag depts sites that have a page just for this information. Some states like Utah require a brand .. so do your homework.. it saves you time and money in the long run I think. Sr :)

[Dakota]

My local veterinarian won't do the paperwork until he calls the state veterinarian for the state the cattle are going and personally that is how I prefer it. I myself don't rely on the Internet for this information because you'd never do know when something has changed and the web site is not updated.

[Summerrain]

Randy that is a good point.. its not good to rely on it, its just helpful to have an ideal. I think what you posted is great, the vets should be familiar and contact the state to know what is required for the animals. :)

[Travis Eckroth]

you can't do much with the papers if they don't have a Health Permit # on them from the state the animal is going to,
Randy hit it right on the head there.

[Leftlane]

David, don't they teach health papers, TB tests, and bangs vacinations in cattleman 101 class anymore? LOL