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Twest00
02-09-2008, 10:13 PM
Carillo has bulls in calli.I bet they didnt even pay him for the miles.Yea right.Can you say under the table...

-MR Cattle
02-09-2008, 10:34 PM
So does Gene Baker. But there are no under the table deals!!:cuss:

akbullfighter
02-09-2008, 10:34 PM
He is only there becuase of the bull team competition. 20K is worth driving that far.

Twest00
02-09-2008, 11:06 PM
They must be loaded.Cause that 20 grand aint a promise...Whatever

rodeostockyard.com
02-09-2008, 11:07 PM
People and there theory's! 20k is worth the drive!

Twest00
02-09-2008, 11:12 PM
How bout this people and their opinions.Thank you thank you very much.I think I need to change my depend.Well it all depends if I **** right????

akbullfighter
02-09-2008, 11:43 PM
What amazes me is the people that get on here and always run off at the mouth about things they no nothing about!

Twest00
02-10-2008, 12:12 AM
Hey there.Why don't you say Trent you have no idea what your talking about.
Stop running off at the mouth Trent.Say something like that.It makes me no difference what people say I will voice what I think.Now don't get me wrong I wouldnt try to bash anyone or hurt there feelins on purpose.I just say what I think.I'm not perfect and I know that.I have never been to Alaska but I have worked with a guy from there and his dad was a cross dresser.

BAR C3
02-10-2008, 01:00 AM
What amazes me is the people that get on here and always run off at the mouth about things they no nothing about!
:yeahthat:
It takes a real man to live in Alaska! I have friends and family that log that country. Cross dressers, must of been working the pipeline ;)

akbullfighter
02-10-2008, 12:36 PM
Hey Trent


We'll come say hi to me AND my dad in Stephenville on the 23 of this month! Little MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Like i said before Running off at the mouth! Please have something intelligent to say besides B****ing! and creating controversy with BS statements!

Mark Ensign
02-10-2008, 12:45 PM
:iagree:

MTBuckingBulls
02-10-2008, 12:48 PM
Why can't we all just get along!!! Just think of it this way, if people are doing things that are not right and/or undercutting others, eventually, it will bite them in the ass.
Karmas a ***** !:cigar:

Swinging C Cattle Co.
02-10-2008, 12:51 PM
I was in California a couple of days ago when Gilbert and Alex arrived at the sale barn in Chino, Ca were they are keeping the bulls for the event. Gilbert is there for the bull team deal, and it looks like it may pay off. He was even talking about how much money it cost him to get there. It is a gamble but he knows the quality of the bulls he has on his team.

Caja Ranch
02-10-2008, 12:55 PM
Not only that but he took more bulls then just the team, for the out money to make it worth the trip.

Swinging C Cattle Co.
02-10-2008, 12:56 PM
And by the way it cost him $800 in fuel one way. pretty good pay off if his team wins!!

akbullfighter
02-10-2008, 01:01 PM
His team sure did look good.

BAR C3
02-10-2008, 11:38 PM
Joel called that! Congratulations 4C on making the trip to Cali! You can't win first sitting in Texas :cigar:

CreekBottom
02-10-2008, 11:46 PM
I have a nephew who lives in Alaska. He is a great guy. Nothing wrong with him either, actually recieved a purple heart a few days ago.

Elbow Creek Cattle Co.
02-11-2008, 12:18 PM
Gene's bulls laid over at our place in Visalia California since Sacramento, so he wouldnt have to spend more in fuel. I know for a fact Gene was not paid any mileage money.



So does Gene Baker. But there are no under the table deals!!:cuss:


SIdney

UCALLWEHAUL
02-11-2008, 04:49 PM
NOT TO BUTT IN BUT I GO TO CA. ABOUT 2 TIMES A MONTH FOR WAY LESS THAN $20,000.00

4C Bulls
02-12-2008, 10:41 AM
Thanks for the nice comments from those of you who had them. I can promise there was no money paid under the table. We made $7,400 in out money alone, not to include the $20,000 for the team, TV exposure, and now increased semen sales.

It aggrevates me that people can make comments that slander individuals and their company without having ANY credible evidence. But a wise man once told me, in the absence of intelligence ignorance prevails! :dink:

Making the trip to Portland, Tacoma, and LA too....using that money we just won for fuel! :D

bullfrog
02-12-2008, 10:48 AM
i am pulling for yall , give them hell 4C:hurray:

Southern Buckers
02-12-2008, 11:31 AM
Good weekend 4C, wish you the best of luck.

billsummers
02-12-2008, 12:00 PM
The point is they took the risk, drove the miles and did a great job. Had they taken the risk, driven the miles and fallen flat, I doubt that anyone would be on here saying they were paid under the table. That scenario could just have easily happened.
From what I saw, they were prepared and deserve the recognition, for their efforts.

Good luck in Portland, Tacoma and LA.

akbullfighter
02-12-2008, 01:03 PM
Julie,
I'll be at the event in Tacoma. I may even drive down to Portland.You guys can stay at my home/office in Kent if you need a place. It's only 25 minutes from the Tacoma Arena. See ya next weekend!

Elbow Creek Cattle Co.
02-12-2008, 01:07 PM
Yes good Luck!! It was great seeing you out here!!! I for one am very glad you forged the trip. I heard alot of great things about your bulls and was glad to get a chance to see them up close and personal. :pop:

If you ever need a place to off load or rest bulls here in Claifornia give me a call. You are always welcome here!!! I am in the middle of California Below Fresno and Above Bakersfield. If I can ever help you out dont hesitate to call.

Sidney
Elbow Creek Cattle Compnay

Thanks for the nice comments from those of you who had them. I can promise there was no money paid under the table. We made $7,400 in out money alone, not to include the $20,000 for the team, TV exposure, and now increased semen sales.

It aggrevates me that people can make comments that slander individuals and their company without having ANY credible evidence. But a wise man once told me, in the absence of intelligence ignorance prevails! :dink:

Making the trip to Portland, Tacoma, and LA too....using that money we just won for fuel! :D

rodeostockyard.com
02-12-2008, 04:04 PM
Where is Mr. West at now! Great job 4C's

BigLRodeo
02-12-2008, 04:48 PM
Sometimes Mr. West might not know what he is talking about, not saying he is not a good person.

Summerrain
02-12-2008, 11:02 PM
Now just a couple of weeks ago , after Fresno and Sacramento, we were on here complaining speculating etc about the bulls at these events, wondering why some contractors didnt haul their bulls out there, alot on here went on and on and complained about it..

NOW , this past weekend we had contractors take bulls to the west coast, they performed great.. and now its complaining and speculating that they went for money under the table...

Just seems you cant make some people happy no matter what happens.

Look for the positives in things , not the negatives and life will be much more pleasant..

I will admit there are times I get negative on here.. but I do try not to let that happen. Life is to short to be negative

Congratulations 4'cs on your bull team. SR:D

BAR C3
02-12-2008, 11:22 PM
:yeahthat: :hurray: :iagree:
Couldn't have been said any better.
Marcia you could add that to a couple of these threads :)

Caja Ranch
02-13-2008, 08:20 AM
Sometimes Mr. West might not know what he is talking about, not saying he is not a good person.

I think if your Jealous and taking shots at people for no good reason, you just may be, Not that good a person.

Twest00
02-13-2008, 11:35 AM
Hello all.My computer has been broke down for a while now.I just wanted to say That no I didnt know what I was talking about.I apoligize for the dumb ass comments I made.I'm really not like that.Sometimes I think I'm 19 again.I will tell ya this If I dont know about something I won't make any comments again.I feel like a reel dummy right now.

Straw Boss
02-13-2008, 11:49 AM
Hello all.My computer has been broke down for a while now.I just wanted to say That no I didnt know what I was talking about.I apoligize for the dumb ass comments I made.I'm really not like that.Sometimes I think I'm 19 again.I will tell ya this If I dont know about something I won't make any comments again.I feel like a reel dummy right now.
Mr. West,
Speaking for only for myself, apology accepted and appreciated however none of these comments were directed at me. I hope everyone can see how hard this last post had to be for you.

Marty Robinson
02-13-2008, 11:53 AM
:yeahthat:

akbullfighter
02-13-2008, 12:11 PM
Me and Mr. West are square. :cheers:

Caja Ranch
02-13-2008, 12:14 PM
That's what I was looking for.:cheers:

Twest00
02-13-2008, 12:22 PM
You know sometimes I say things before thinking.I was told early on that you need to think before you speak.You know I go through life and still learn basic things like that.I really do feel bad for all I said.See that little voice on my shoulder always kills me when I do or say something thats wrong.Thats why I cant apoligize enough.I'm a very worry some person.Well I guess I'll go
keep myself busy...

rodeostockyard.com
02-13-2008, 12:28 PM
Its all good!:cigar:

4C Bulls
02-13-2008, 02:21 PM
Apology accepted. It takes a big person to admit when they are wrong, especially to the whole public. You have restored my respect for you! Thanks for doing this.

Straw Boss
02-13-2008, 03:43 PM
You know sometimes I say things before thinking.I was told early on that you need to think before you speak.You know I go through life and still learn basic things like that.I really do feel bad for all I said.See that little voice on my shoulder always kills me when I do or say something thats wrong.Thats why I cant apoligize enough.I'm a very worry some person.Well I guess I'll go
keep myself busy...
Don't sweat it any more. Sometimes I can't even begin to explain my own behavior, much less judge someone elses.

Summerrain
02-13-2008, 04:51 PM
Trent takes more of a man to apologize, especially in public . I commend you on that.. alot of folks get caught up in the post and say things before they realize it.. happens to everyone..
look forward to more posts from you... have a great day!:D

TClower
02-13-2008, 05:12 PM
congrats to you 4c's nice win