Changes in the ABBI, Announced Today

[Summerrain]

I Recieved this today, thought you would like to know

MEDIA CONTACT:
Susan Bedford
ABBI Bull Pen Magazine
714-434-2579

ABBI ANNOUNCES NEW GENERAL MANAGER
Andrea Lamoreaux to Take the Helm of American Bucking Bull Inc.

COSTA MESA, Calif.-- The ABBI (American Bucking Bull Inc.) Board of Directors has appointed Andrea “Andee” Lamoreaux as the interim General Manager, announced Bull Pen Magazine publisher Christopher Burkhardt.

“Lamoreaux has the know-how and the desire to grow the ABBI into a first-class organization,” said Burkhardt. “We are excited to work with someone who has the support of both the PBR and the ABBI board and its shareholders. We predict a bright future for the registry.”

Lamoreaux has more than 20 years of operations management and administrative experience within the fields of business development, marketing and law. Lamoreaux has worked for the PBR (Professional Bull Riders, Inc.) since 1999. She previously served the PBR as the Executive Assistant to CEO Randy Bernard and as the Vice President of Administration.
Bernard commented, “I'm happy and sad at the same time. First and foremost, I'm proud to have referred her as a candidate for the position to the ABBI Board. She has been a great asset to the PBR and myself for nine years now, and I'm going to miss her tremendously. I'm confident that she will approach this new chapter of her career with the same passion, drive and professionalism that she has shown†at the PBR. I couldn't think of a better candidate for the job.”
“I think Randy was a bit reluctant to let Andee go,” observed ABBI President Russ Gant, of West Plains, Mo. “We couldn’t be happier, because she really takes the bull by the horns. She has a huge job ahead of her, first moving the office to Pueblo and then hiring people to coordinate our 2008 events. There is a new rulebook coming out, and we are finalizing the event schedule. She really has her hands full.”
Starting in 2005, Lamoreaux was the PBR liaison responsible for the research, negotiation and implementation of the health regulation paperwork between the USDA and SAGARPHA agency of Mexico. She was responsible for the historic and successful transportation of U.S. bred bulls in and out of Mexico without quarantine. Prior to 2006, no in tact bull had ever been allowed to cross into Mexico and return to the U.S.
Lamoreaux recently organized the standing-room only “Bovine Athletes: Health and Wealth in the Bucking Bull Business” seminar during the PBR World Finals in Las Vegas, which included guest speakers from the ABBI and PBR, the U.S.D.A. and the industry's top bucking bull veterinarians.
Lamoreaux was raised in Nebraska in a family that was involved in the cattle industry and received her Bachelor of Science Degree in Education and Administration from the University of Nebraska. She currently resides outside Pueblo, Colo. with her husband and son. Lamoreaux will continue to be based in the PBR World Headquarters in Pueblo, where the ABBI offices will be relocated in December.
The ABBI Board recently elected a new president, Russ Gant. H.D. Page will serve as vice-president and Jim Bob Nall is the newest elected board member. Lamoreaux replaces Joe Merrick, who recently resigned. Merrick served the organization from its inception in 2004 as its Executive Director, and supervised its many successes. “History is important,” stated Gant, “and we cannot forget what a great job the whole ABBI staff has done up until now.”
“The ABBI has enjoyed tremendous growth and we wish Joe Merrick well,” Bernard stated. “But the time has come for the ABBI to move to Pueblo in order to fully utilize the PBR's resources, and in order for the two organizations to augment and assist each other.”
“We think the move to Pueblo will really benefit ABBI,” added Gant, “and really seems more one-sided toward ABBI’s benefit. We are really lucky to have Andee Lamoreaux in this position.”
ABBI is the world's leading bucking bull organization, with a DNA registry of over 50,000 animals. It also produces and sanctions competitive events for Futurity and Classic bucking bulls. Last month in Las Vegas, the ABBI World Bucking Bull Classic Champion, Julio Moreno’s Troubadour, was awarded $250,000.
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[Ricky Northcutt]

Thanks Summerrain, we will see how it goes!

:omg:

[charlie]

Thank you Marcia,and I wish her the best and hope she can find the folks to back her up in the new location.

[Keith Strickland]

thanks for posting this info

[Summerrain]

Your very welcome, want to keep all of you informed when I find out anything, it affects everyone thats a breeder. :)

[Brent Nelson]

I have not heard, but who all, if any, of the current staff is going to go with the office?

[BAL]

sure hope Brandon goes, he has always been a great help to us.

[BigLRodeo]

It would be a crying shame for the ABBI to not keep Brandon, he stepped in when they was needing someone of his caliber.He can get more done in 10 minutes than most people could do in a day. He knows the system inside and out, if that lady is very smart she won't attempt to do this on her own. Brandon is 1 person the ABBI needs & I'm sure there is some intellegent people involved with the ABBI that knows this.

[artman182]

If the ABBI were smart, they would allow for Brandon to work out of his home at a satellite office. We have the technology, it would be smart to use it.

Arthur

[KEITH NABOURS]

WHAT DALE AND ART SAID!!!!! BRANDON CAN GET MORE DONE IN ONE DAY THEN ONE PAST EMPLOYEE COULD GET DONE IN A YEAR:beatdeadhorse::beatdeadhorse:

[billsummers]

What everyone said, especially Arthur

[Jason Aduddell]

Last I had heard (very unofficial), is that no one from the existing staff is going to make the move...... We calve about 40 head a year and do all of the bloodwork/dna at one time, which I turned in about 45 days ago. Hopefully, my papers will be finished before the official move is made and they will have a year to get the transition worked out before I have to do it again........... Honestly, this will be a step back at first, then over time, the new staff will learn the system and have things running smoothly again and things will carry on. BUT, the bull business has lost 6 or 7 people that should be thanked and considered class acts......... Joe, Sherry, Kyle, Jena, Jason, Chad, Brandon and if I forgot anyone - I WOULD LIKE TO EXTEND MY DEEPEST THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR ALL YOU HAVE DONE TO HELP MYSELF AND THE BUCKING BULL INDUSTRY. Thank you.......... :seeya:

[bullpen]

:iagree:

[BuckinHeifers08]

Im very glad for this change, it was time for out with the old and in with the new!

[JC Childress]

Well said Jason. Everyone there has been a huge help to me. Brandon has been awesome, but I have to say Jena has been a huge help as well to me,with my millions of questions and whatnot. They are all good people and will be missed.

[tiny]

I also have heard that no one is moving and Brandon wrote the program and it is not going either. This may not be true but I think it is.

[Steelman]

I have also heard rumor that the price to register cattle is going to go up when the move is made. Better get yours in now. I just bled about 30 head. Now I just need someone to loan me the money to send them in. lol ;)
Best wishes to the old staff.

[CreekBottom]

Brandon has been GREAT to work with on reg. cattle!! He is a first calss guy!!

[KEITH NABOURS]

:iagree::yeahthat:

[JERRYB]

We sit back and its hard to keep our mouth closed, but we've decided if it goes up anymore were done. Its time to go back to old school. We've apperciate everyone in the abbi office that has helped us and it sucks that the abbi can't realize what they are missing out on by getting rid of BRandon and other staff. Just my 2 cents:rant:

[JeremyWillis]

I am with Jerry.

With the price of these cattle now days, its won't hardley be worth it to pay the any more money to register them.

I will go Old School with you Jerry, if ut comes down to it we can just trade cattle back and forth between the two of us.

[aclbullgenetics]

Everyone at the ABBI office will be truely missed....I want to thank everyone that has helped me register cattle and with futurity payments, etc. I had the pleasure to work with Kyle and family at many futurity and classic events this past year and I will miss working with you guys!!!!

I wish Pueblo was so much more closer for you guys to move and still be a part of the ABBI...I truely think they will realize that ya'll will be missed because of the knowledge ya'll have with the ABBI!!!

Thanks for all the help!

Aline

[JERRYB]

Well, I'm going to tell you my thoughts, and let me be frank these are just my thoughts. We raise I believe just as good bulls as any. We just don't go out and kiss any @%$. The funny thing is we don't ask a killing for our bulls just what they are worth at the time of us selling them. When we try and sell them people look at us like were crazy. The funny thing is people"I'm not mentioning any name" buy them for I believe is cheap and turn around and sell them for 30 or 40 thousand. The point to my story is everyone with a chain link fence is raising bucking bulls so in return they will pay the extra money to register their 5 head. When heifers aren't selling for much I believe, what is the point in registering them? All your doing is putting money in a lost cause. The reason I say all this if you looked at the beef market, a solid color heifer weighting 650-700 would bring 750-850. I'm watching well bred heifers with generations of breeding bring 600-800 dollars. What is the point? These are just my opionins.:banghead::banghead:

[Jason Eddy]

No one knows or cares that I even work at the ABBI office, so I'm not moving. No one else is either. Maybe it'll be better, but I'm staying out of the cattle business because it all just got a lot riskier, in my official opinion. I'm sure they can find another accountant with knowledge of bucking bulls that will pack 300+ lb gates for three days, plow, the arena, and load bulls. With Christmas coming up, who has time for a job AND grow a beard. The brightside of being jobless is it saves on tithing.

[doubledcattle]

No one knows or cares that I even work at the ABBI office, so I'm not moving. No one else is either. Maybe it'll be better, but I'm staying out of the cattle business because it all just got a lot riskier, in my official opinion. I'm sure they can find another accountant with knowledge of bucking bulls that will pack 300+ lb gates for three days, plow, the arena, and load bulls. With Christmas coming up, who has time for a job AND grow a beard. The brightside of being jobless is it saves on tithing.

But you can still give an offering. :speed_eek:

I'm just kidding around.

What kind of effect in your opinion will this have on the bucking bull industry as a whole? I hope they aren't going to hire people that is in it just for the money. I know the now former employees of the ABBI had a great deal of knowledge , respect and the will to help people. I hope they don't put money grubbing people in those positions now.

[Travis Eckroth]

I have quite a few bloodcards to send in,
where do they need to be sent?
Pueblo or Sayre ?

might be the last I send in if there is a significant increase in reg. costs.:mad:

[Jason Eddy]

They don't want an offer. If they wanted anyone from here, they wouldn't be moving the office.

Everyone that went to Vegas with bulls got a check. Everyone that wrote the checks, got a kick in the pants and no one's telling me anything. I just wish I could have been at the meeting to here Cody call everyone what he called them. I was sitting here in Sayre calling them the same thing when I got a call from a BULL RIDER tellling me I was losing my job.

How are they gonna find people in Pueblo who know all of you? We know at least 90% of our members, most of them we like, some we don't. We know who you do business with and we know who they do business with. If you can't find a parent, someone here might be able to help track down who might have it. I know, I've done it. Who in Pueblo has that knowledge? I'm afraid anyone they don't recognize from TV won't get the time of day. Surprise me if I'm lying Andee!!! Yeah, they're watching all this, don't think their not. I think they'll get by, but they're gonna lose members and event entries. I've been around, I know somethings.

[Jason Eddy]

Oh yeah, I forgot my name and phone number.

Jason Eddy
Sayre, OK
580-928-7181
j.freno@hotmail.com (formerly joaquim freno's e-mail)

"there ain't no bridges where I live, I've burned them all"

"I got fired from the bakery because I suck at sugar coating"

"I'll bleed on any M-Fer in this place"

[JustinCrawford]

I think this is the worst thing that could happen to the industry. All the folks at the abbi office were as good a set of DOWN TO EARTH people one could ask to speak to. Its gonna be tough to replace any of them. especially brandon. ive heard the price is gonna increase drasticaly for the older cattle and cattle over a certain age cant be registerd at all, any truth to this? or does any one know?

[LockeBulls]

Jason, you have always been willing to help me out. If there is anything I can do for you my number is on this post.

[Jason Eddy]

Those rumors about registration restrictions and price happen every year. The board is planning on requiring at least one parent to be registered to register the offspring starting in 2009. That is unrelated to the move however and has more to do with creating legitimacy of the "breed". As far as prices go, who kjnows. The fixed operating expenses are fixing to skyrocket, so there's a good chance of price increases. And that's my professional opinion as an insider WITH an accounting degree.

We still don't know if we have til the end of the month, or the end of the year!

[Summerrain]

Jason sure hate to see you and the others have to go, yall have been great and did so much for the breeders and the ABBI. Your shoes no one can fill.:(

[Rafter J]

What i have never understood about Abbi is why their customers (and that is what we are) find out most of our information via someones post on a message board and not from them on there own web site.
I have been comming on these message boards for along time and as many boards as there are and as many people that are involved in the bull business and as dissatisfied as it appears many of their customers are at times, surely someone in charge has to realize the importance of communiction of the facts.
I have held off to register any of my animals until this year because of all the controversy the abbi has had in the past. The only reason I am registering them now is that is what the market demands and Abbi is the only game in town. Now they are moving and personel is changing, talk of increases in registration fees, along with all the past issues I am currently unsure if i want to continue business with Abbi. (am I throwing good money after bad)
Bulls have never had to have papers to buck and cows dont have to have them to produce. All papers do is help the buyer feel like they are getting something worth the money they are spending. The Dna part is very helpful but im sure that can be handled by several different companies and at a lower price than we pay right now.
Hopefully they will get it ironed out and the industry can continue to grow without stepping on any more of guys that have supported it and made it what it is today. Thank you to all the staff i have dealt with this year getting me this far. Also thank you to the folks who come on these boards and try to keep the rest of the breeders informed.

[JeremyWillis]

Might be time to start a new registry.

[BuckinHeifers08]

The real question is... Why is it now that theres (what seems to be more) pissing and moaning about the ABBI when they are getting ready to change? I was pretty well anti-abbi UNTIL I heard of this change! The abbi was run half-a$$ by our past officials and I believe 100% that things will make a turn around with these new people in charge. Obviously with the big change and move and all, there is going to be a few rough times IE-things getting lost in the move and whatever else could happen. BUT, The leadership in the association HAS MADE A HUGE IMPROVEMENT! I think it would only be fair to give the new officials the benefit of the doubt and GIVE THEM A CHANCE before we get all jerked simple when something as easy as a leadership change happens and go running somewhere else.

(this coming election being the exception cause its a lose lose situation) But do you consider moving to another country when we get a new president? I dont think so....

[Jason Eddy]

Changes and rules have always been and will continue to be made by the board of directors. The integrity of the company, though has always been with the staff. We have lobbied and worked for the members everyday that the office has been in Sayre. When the board makes a rule or changes a rule, we have to go with it, whether we agree or not, that's how corporations work. To say that changing locations and staff is positive is just plain naive and a bit tacky. For all I care the events could go, I could care less about the headaches and all the pissin' and moanin', they don't make any money for us anyways. In this business you can't ever make ANYONE happy.
You're --mned right I'm bitter. With all the people stabbing us in the back, it's hard to know who to call out. The only apology I have is that I spent so many weekends packing steel from one end of an arena to the other. I sacrificed my time and my body with minimal compensation for the betterment of the business and nobody cares. Y'all are fixin to learn the hard way just how much we've all done for the company.

Jason Eddy
Sayre, OK
j.freno@hotmail.com
580-928-7181

[Ricky Northcutt]

Jd rodeo, I hope you are correct for all of our sake!

But I very seriously doubt it, now I also bet the fees go up in all areas:

Registration
Their "take" for Futurities
Their "take" for Classics
And whatever else they get paid for.

They will have to have this increase because you can bet your sweet but their operating budget is going to go up a bunch. :banghead:

:soapbox: :nopity:

But what the hey huh!

[Rafter J]

I would say one thing about the abbi theyve always had someone stand up and say "give them a chance" I just think alot of folks are getting tired of giving out chances. Hell its their hard earned money their investing in their products and the way the Abbi track record looks I dont see why anyone in their right mind wouldnt question or show some concern over what is taking place. Frankly I dont give a tinkers dam who runs the abbi they are a business that i pay money to preform a service for me. With out me and others like me they have no business.

[BuckinHeifers08]

I appreciate your commitment to the business , Jason. Without people like you who love what they do (or did) we (our business) would be in a world of trouble. All my opinions are based on was some of the downright idiotic problems and and stories that I have either encountered and or heard about with the ABBI and there old officials... I'm very sorry you are jobless now, I dont wish that upon anyone but unfortunately a lot of the 5,000 + members wanted some change, and well... we got it! Again, Im sorry that it was at your expense.

Ricky- You could be right, Im not going to doubt that. I also hope not too!

Im just not going to NOT give the new board a chance... Say what you will about me or whatever but these are my feeling and opinions..

BTW, Where has Mr. Wilfong ? Usually he is the FIRST to voice his opinions and feelings ESPECIALLY on issues like this? hmmmmmmmm

[Rafter J]

[QUOTE=BuckinHeifers08;33361]I appreciate your commitment to the business , Jason. Without people like you who love what they do (or did) we (our business) would be in a world of trouble. [QUOTE]

I Agree

[snakeriverrodeoco]

[QUOTE=Jason Eddy;33324]Those rumors about registration restrictions and price happen every year. The board is planning on requiring at least one parent to be registered to register the offspring starting in 2009. That is unrelated to the move however and has more to do with creating legitimacy of the "breed". As far as prices go, who kjnows. The fixed operating expenses are fixing to skyrocket, so there's a good chance of price increases. And that's my professional opinion as an insider WITH an accounting degree.

We still don't know if we have til the end of the month, or the end of the year![/QUOTE

I NOTICE YOU SAY THE BOARD IS PLANNING,WELL LAST TIME I REMEMBER AN ASSOCIATION HAS MEMBERS DO THOSE BOARD MEMBERS CARE TO ASK THE OTHER MEMBERS WHAT THEY THINK?PROBLEM WITH THE ABBI IS THEY KNOW THEY ARE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN THEEFORE YOU HAVE TO USE THEM OR NOT PLAY! HEY ABBI BOARD I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO SPEND A WEEK WITH THE AMERICAN ANGUS ASSN. YOU JUST MIGHT LEARN HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR MEMBERS AND CUSTOMERS!

[Brent Nelson]

I NOTICE YOU SAY THE BOARD IS PLANNING,WELL LAST TIME I REMEMBER AN ASSOCIATION HAS MEMBERS DO THOSE BOARD MEMBERS CARE TO ASK THE OTHER MEMBERS WHAT THEY THINK?PROBLEM WITH THE ABBI IS THEY KNOW THEY ARE THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN THEEFORE YOU HAVE TO USE THEM OR NOT PLAY! HEY ABBI BOARD I CHALLENGE YOU TO GO SPEND A WEEK WITH THE AMERICAN ANGUS ASSN. YOU JUST MIGHT LEARN HOW TO TAKE CARE OF YOUR MEMBERS AND CUSTOMERS!

Todd, you are right about an "association" but unfortunately, ABBI is not and has never been an "association". It is a corporation.

Now, I am not saying this move is good or bad, but this is definately has soured alot of people.

JD is right as well, it was not too long ago that the main topics on this board were all very negative towards the ABBI and people were calling for peoples heads over them. I don't know if the same people are still calling for them or not, but here is your change, and JD is the only one saying they got what they wanted.

Change is always extremely difficult and gradual transitions are always better. I definately think they should have transitioned a little slower and utilized the talent they had available to make the WHOLE ABBI better.

I very much feel sympathy for the employees and families involoved that are losing their jobs, that is the hardest thing to face, especially coming into the holiday season. To all the current ABBI employees, I wish you the best in what ever you decide to do and hope things get better for you soon.

[Steelman]

Mr Nelson is right. ABBI......... American Bucking Bull Incorporated

[BuckinHeifers08]

Thanks so much Brent!

At least one person understands what I am trying to say.

PS, Thanks to all that feel the need to PM me and send me nasty messages! I'm sorry my name isnt different so you could jump on "my bandwagon" as you do others!!:nopity:

[snakeriverrodeoco]

just because your inc. or a corp. dont mean its not an assn. that is just there legal entity! PBR is a corp. but as a member you have voting right!

as a matter of fact all assn. i belong to are inc'd

[RJP]

Members of the American Quarter Horse Association don't have any say or get to vote on any of that association's business. A member of the AQHA gets to pay membership dues and registration fees!

[YoungBulls, LLC.]

Well let me give my two cents worth what ever it is worth. First off, being envloved with several corporations in the past, a CORPORATION is made up of stockholders and a board of directors. THe stock holders make the decisions FOR the corporation. Not the customers that do business with the corporation. THe stockholders vote on directives from the board of directors that are doing what the stockholders are considering to be the best way for the company to make money for the stockholders NOT THE CUSTOMERS. THe customers are the people who put the money in the corporation in order to make a profit for the stockholders to draw dividends. The customers are just NUMBERS to the stockholders and not anything more than a number for which money is being made to pay the stockholders. GOT IT!!!!!, having said that and explaining that to everyone that has never been part of a corporation or a voting member of a corporation or a sitting Board member, you should understand that we as customers are nothing more than a number to the corporation and that we are making the money by doing business with the corporation. If we as CUSTOMERS don't like the way the corporation that is made up of stockholders and board members, is being run , then we as customers should look elsewhere to do business with instead of the current corporation that is being discussed. What we should do is become stockholders of a NEW CORPORATION and then we can make the decisions of the new corporation that we have started and a new Board of Directors and then we can all make money from other customers. THAT IS WHAT A CORPORATION DOES!!!!!!!!! MAKES MONEY FOR STOCKHOLDERS AND NOT CUSTOMERS. THe Guys from ABBI, Jason Bradon Joe and all the others would be smart to start a new corporation and try to be the other guys in town. But, we will just get right back to where we are now. New stockholders making money from the customers that make money for the corporation. It is why we all live in the United States. IT is FACT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! that corporations are started by stockholders to make a profit no matter what is does to the customers. We will all accept it if we stay in the bucking bull business and now we do not have a choice because now the stockholdrs of the ABBI and the stockholdes of the PBR are all in the same place and now will be making more money for the stockholders from the customers,

THAT MEANS ME AND YOU..........

And that's all i have to say on the subject. I appreciate all the help and support that the past employees of ABBI have assisted me with in the past. Good LUCK TO US ALL.

[badbulls]

:pop:

[KEITH NABOURS]

IF YA'LL WANT TO KNOW THE FACTS CALL THE BOARD MEMBERS.H.D.PAGE,RUSS GANT,SCOTT AMMOZZIO AND JIM BOB NOLL OR MAYBE YOU SHOULD CALL THE OFFICE AND TALK TO ANDEE:adore:

[BuckinHeifers08]

:adore:

[David Bailey Rodeo]

wow
:pop::pop::pop::pop::pop::pop:

[tiny]

I have to thank Joe, Kyle, Jena, Jason, and Chad and others from ABBI for all the help that they have given me at events. I can tell you one thing and that is Jason at the wild Card built the HOLE arena inside the coleseum with the help of a few county laborers, maybe 3 or 4. while every one else was busy with the bulls. It took 2 full days of setting up panels for the pens for the bulls. I helped very little and Kyle and 4 laborers along with Jason set up all the pens they was there at 7am on friday finishing building pens. That was started on Wednesday.

SO at most events I think that Jason and Kyle always arrived early on got things lined out for the event. And got the pens built who is going to do it now. and it is not something a lot of people will want to do or some of them do not even have the know how to do it.

Jason if I never see you or Kyle again or even Joe. I really do appreciate all the help that you gave me.

[BWCATTLECO]

To everyone at the office,I appreciate all you have done for me. Special thanks to Brandon, Jenna, answered every question ive ever had. But one question I still have some cattle to register this year.Is the office ,everything still open,working in Sayre. AN FOR HOW LONG.

[Coyotee]

Welcome to this world, everyone seems to be getting a little big for their pants huh cody.

[Backedwhentheybucked]

To all the valued ex-employees in Sayre, you guys have the knowledge, and an office in place, why not continue? Every one who wants to keep things in Sayre can allow the "old" office to have access to their information. Building a new data base and using a different lab, there are plenty out there. I realize there needs to be starting-up capital, but why not offer investment oppertunities? You guys have more power than you realize. Inside knowledge (good or bad) goes along way.

Jan Wyatt

[snakeriverrodeoco]

NOT TO TAKE AWAY FROM THIS THREAD BUT NATE WHEN YOU GOING TO GET A BUCKING HORSE REGISTRY GOING?

[Steelman]

Let me do a little backing up. I'm the one that started the deal on the registration fees going up. Thats just rumor that I heard. Not fact that I know of. In the future I will be sure and keep my mouth shut untill it is fact that I know of.
As for you guys that are going to go back to old school, I'd think twice. This bucking bull industry is growing by leaps and bounds and right now the ABBI is leading the way. You can get on the bus or you can get left behind.
Sorry for the guys in Sayre losing thier jobs, especially this time of year. Everyone there was always nice and tried thier best to help me. Best of luck to you all.
As for the new deal we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. I know Russ Gant is a first class man and will be doing his best to make this a good change for everyone. Might want to give them a chance.
Thats it. Ya'll take care and God bless.

[CDA]

i for one long for the days of buckers and rsr....
BRING BACK TALLMAN!!!!!!:nana:

[Diamond_E]

I dont understand why they are gonna only let you register cattle with at least one registered parent. I dont see how that helps the legitimacy of the breed, if a cow or a bull is proven to be a producer why not let them be registered thats what the main goal is, is to raise buckers. And even if they dont, papers speak for themselves and a bulls performance speaks for its self also. That seems to take away $$$$ from the business if thats what they are striving for.

[JERRYB]

Its all about MONEY,:dink: HELL who needs it?:puke:

[Swinging C Cattle Co.]

I guess most everybody does not remember or were not around when Joe M. and Dillion P had a meeting in Ft.Worth about starting a new registry and how heated that meeting got??? Most everybody hated the Rodeo Stock Registry because one guy was making money $$$ off of everyone. That is what caused the ABBI to form. Now the PBR(Spire Capital) and the rest of the ABBI shareholders are making the money !!! Not that I agree with everything going on with the ABBI, but this is Corperate America and growing pains at its best!!

[Shrimp]

i for one long for the days of buckers and rsr....
BRING BACK TALLMAN!!!!!!:nana:



Are you kidding me?!?! All of this talk about money being the problem and who is getting paid and not getting paid. What about when Tallman sold the RSR was that not the ultimate pay off for him.

[Summerrain]

Well when I posted this , I knew there would be comments, but never dreamed it would take off like this.

I have been reading everyones commets and I respect everyones opinions and comments . We all have different ideals , opinions, and veiw points on issues. I think eveyone has their reasons for feeling the way they do about this announcement and the news of the ABBI moving and the new managment etc.

As much as I am saddened by the fact that the staff we currently have will not be making the move with the ABBI, I have thought about it and talked to a few folks and in my opinion, I think we should give the ABBI a chance with the new managment. We dont know yet what they have in mind and what the plans are for the ABBI. Its hard for anyone to accept change, but maybe we should give them a chance and see what happens. Time will only tell. Just my opinion:hide::rolleyes:

[Brent Nelson]

Generally speaking what is the ABBI doing "as a registry" that's got this stirred up anyway?

Sure they are going through some changes, they need to work on some event issues, etc... but what's the issue with the registry?

If they can establish some rules in regards to the cloning scenario everything concerning the registry will be fine...

Events are a whole different matter...


I agree with Scott Davis on the registry vs. event issues as what is posted on the "New Registry Ideas" post. I think that needs to be split off from each other.

Alot of event issues have marred the ABBI and that should be totally separated from the registry. Jason has said numerous times, and those that have played the futurity/classic game know how much time it takes from their original job. If the events were produced by a whole different entity, or at least a different group with in the same, focus would be on events and registry would not be suffering. Take a look at the NBBA, they are an event association. They have been doing quite well for themselves because they are focused on events, not part time registration and part time events. They still rely on the ABBI for registration requirements and it has benifited both groups. I for one have not played the event game yet, tried once but the "Northern" event was cancelled for lack of entries, anyway that's another issue and that's not being discussed now.

Now the registry part still has its problems that NEED to be resolved, especially concerning the cloning issues. But if you have your focus on just one set of issues, you can find time to address/correct things that need fixed.

So, that is my opinion anyway, Like Toby Keith says; "Hate me if you want to, Love me if you can". :cigar:

I posted this on the "New Registry Ideas" post as well but thought it had some relevance here too. Maybe not, but who knows.

[bullpen]

Marcia has the right idea, let's give the new group a chance. I know everyone is concerned and we should be. After all, many have a great deal of money invested and how this all turnes out will be deturmined by the new people. The ABBI has grown faster than anyone could have ever imagined, tell me anyone would have believed four years ago that the top classic bull would have won over $250,000 for one season. Back that up with a futurity bull winning over $100,000, we had two this season do this.
The PBR knows how important all this is and I am sure this will all work out for us.

[Jason Eddy]

I'm out officially out of the bucking bull industry.

Peace out, Suckas.

Jason Eddy
Sayre, OK (Neillsville, WI)
580-928-7181

[BuckinHeifers08]

Marcia, I could have swore I said that same thing. As Ive said beforem I wish my name was different!

[CDA]

Are you kidding me?!?! All of this talk about money being the problem and who is getting paid and not getting paid. What about when Tallman sold the RSR was that not the ultimate pay off for him.
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So let me get this right--you dont mind a whole bunch of people who could not care less about what you think as a coustomer making money off you but RSR and buckers had to go cos only a few people owned it??????:confused:

[T S]

I'm out officially out of the bucking bull industry.

Peace out, Suckas.

Jason Eddy
Sayre, OK (Neillsville, WI)
580-928-7181

Jason why dont you tell us how you really feel .... :D

[chandlercattleco.]

Heck,who knows,maybe the new folks will return phone calls!

[Blood Line]

First of all I would like to thank all of the folks in the ABBI office. Most importanly Brandon, Jenna and Kyle... They were the folks I talked to most often and were always a great help! My hat is off to the whole bunch that took over when it went from Weatherford, Texas to Sayre, Oklahoma.

1. The PBR and it's shareholders got the RSR when the RSR had little choice... The threat of a new registry with deep financial backing would have put us under anyway... It was a forced hand and I watched Bob Tallman on the edge of insanity resisting to sell, but we all knew that selling was the "BEST" thing for the industry... We were right because the ABBI has taken it to heights some of us cannot even comprehend...

2. For anyone that thinks Tallman cleaned house - you are wrong... I worked there for almost 5 years... From 60 members and 500 head of cattle to 750 members and 9000 head of cattle when it sold... All the while the man (Bob T.) never drew a paycheck... yet signed line of credit, after line of credit... Truth be known - he lost money... prolly gave it away...

3. For anyone who thinks the ABBI is "cleaning house" - you are wrong... Ask any of the shareholders... In the last three years its grown to 2000+ members and 50,000 cattle, ask them when is the last time they got a dividend check... Pretty sure the answer is never...

4. The ABBI isn't cleaning house because of the events... Since the day they got it, I suggested the events be seperated from the registry. So did Joe, So did Scott Pickens, So did Brandon... The registry generates a substantial income, but the events suck it dry... Why do you think the Finals went from Vegas to Enid? BECAUSE IT WAS A LOSER! Moving it to Enid just helped it be "less" of a LOSER...

5. The events have got to be seperated from the registry in order for the business to be successful. That among other reason is WHY I became involved with the NBBA. Rules, regs, honesty, integrity and NO REGISTRY!

6. Solution: Let the NBBA assume the entire competition arm - as a sanctioning body... Then just let the PBR and shareholders hold the registry...

7. Dilema - EGOS...

8. If implimented: eventually the NBBA would buy the registry from the PBR because the association could generate the capital necessary to do so...

9. MY FAVORITE: The NBBA and the CBR has a grass roots development in full swing... All of this may not matter anyway if the CBR is the "sleeping giant" of professional bull riding anyway!

Cheers!

:chillpill:

[HGS]

Scott, I have mentioned on here several times that the ABBI hire persons to promote their events. Sponsorships are the name of the game. If barrel racing and team roping can do it, why cant the futurities ??? HS

[socattleco]

All i want to know is wheres my BULL PEN magazine,Usually when you have say a NOV. DEC. issue is comes the first week of the the first month,but i guess with all the changes looks like we will get the Nov. Dec. issue in January...

[Jason Aduddell]

Scotts point #4 - So your saying, if you are from Enid or spend alot of time in Enid - your a LOSER? j/k..........

[Blood Line]

Anybody else notice that Aduddell stays "undercover" until UO wins a ballgame?!?!!

j/k Jason! :cheers:

[sonlight]

have not got a rule book or bullpen all year. and this is dec?keep waiting.:yikes::ar15::beatdeadhorse: