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CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 08:54 AM
WAS WONT TO KNOW IF ANY OF YALL USE F1 IN YOUR HEARD. I WENT TO A SALE 3 WEEKS AGO AND THEY HAD SOME BULLS AND COWS. BUT FROM WHAT I COULD TELL PEOPLE DOWN HERE WONT THE SOLID BLACK OR RED CATTLE BREEDS AND THERE NOT AS MUCH FOR BRINDLES BUT THEY LOOK REILLY GOOD SO I WAS WONTING TO GET SOME MORE INFO ON THEM. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO NO WHO STARTED THE BREED OF F1'S. ALSO I THINK I SAW SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT A BUCKING BULL THAT IS A F1 IS THAT TRUE AND IF SO WITCH ONE WAS IT. THANKS FOR THE HELP CJ;)

billsummers
07-26-2007, 09:21 AM
Robin,
I think what you're talking about are F1 Tiger Stripes. They are a yellowish Brindle with white faces. They are the result of crossing Herefrd Females with Brahma Bulls. No other cross produces the color consistently
These cattle are perfect for our environment as they are heat tolerant and insect resistant. If you're looking for cattle that will produce more, eat less and produce for many years, these are the ones. They have been the backbone of the Gulf Coast cattle business for 30 yrs. They are not seen as much now due to the commercial business looking for black hides.
You will see them in this business as well. One you are familiar with is Ashford 04
I have some as well and I wish I had more

CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 09:26 AM
THATS THE ONES I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE SOME COWS THAT ARE BRINDLE. THANKS BILL

oly
07-26-2007, 09:27 AM
F-1 is the cross of a Brahama onto a beef cow. Dr. Proctor is an F-1. RKO

Leftlane
07-26-2007, 09:29 AM
Bobby Stiener bucks a lot of F1 brindles that he raises

gene001
07-26-2007, 09:36 AM
The F1 cross is talked about in the subject on #100 Playmate. Nicki had some of them were really good and went on to be some sure enough buckers.

billsummers
07-26-2007, 09:43 AM
You're right Oly, whatRobin is talking about is a specific cross. Really nice cattle

I knew I could find something on them. Cattle Today is a great source of information

http://www.cattletoday.com/archive/2005/June/CT400.shtm

CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 10:21 AM
NEXT QUESTION THE PEOPLE THAT HAS FI COULD YALL POST SOME PIC. OF THEM ON HERE BULLS AND COWS?

Big Creek Ranch
07-26-2007, 10:36 AM
A neighbor of ours raises F1 tiger stripes. He uses white or grey brahmas cows and herford bulls. You get alot more different colors then herford cows under brahma bulls. One thing is for sure though they all have stripes and generally make good recep. cattle. They are pretty high dollar cows around here right now, I was lucky to get mine before they went to getting to high.

J-S
07-26-2007, 10:54 AM
When asking make sure you say f-1 tigerstripes.F-1 can pertain to any purebred crossed with another not just hereford and brahman.

SoTxJim
07-26-2007, 10:55 AM
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f362/SoTxJim/rodeocows014.jpg

THIS IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE COWS!

CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 10:59 AM
THANK YOU JIM SHE LOOKS GOOD. BUT DOES ANY ONE HAVE PIC. OF THE WHITE FACE BRINDLES LIKE BILL WAS TALKING ABOUT?

LCW
07-26-2007, 11:12 AM
Here are some Pictures

http://www.mstarfarms.com/cattle.htm

HGS
07-26-2007, 12:08 PM
Robin, I was raising F1, Bramer, Hereford cross for bucking bulls. Many contractors several years ago were raising them. They can make good bucking bulls but are slow coming around to buck. They are a great cross bred cattle and down here in south Texas breeding age F1s are about as popular as the black cattle. We really like them, still have a few cows. HS

TwistedT
07-26-2007, 12:17 PM
Im also thinking like Tony Lama Boots has F1 in him. I may be wrong.

HGS
07-26-2007, 12:21 PM
Robin, all F1 brindles do not have white faces. We prefer motley face or dark around the eyes, helps prevent eye cancer. Here is a true F1 brindle bucking bull. HS
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h241/hitumhi/BIGUN.jpg

HGS
07-26-2007, 12:23 PM
Another!!! HS

http://s66.photobucket.com/albums/h241/hitumhi/?action=view&current=CONTEST2.jpg

van
07-26-2007, 01:07 PM
Calamity Jane,

Here is a brindle 2yr old out of M-17.

CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 01:08 PM
WOW, THATS WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. THAT I SOME GOOD LOOKING BULLS HS. NOW WHY DINT YOU SEND SOME TO ME LIKE THAT. HAHAH JUST KIDDING

HGS
07-26-2007, 01:27 PM
Robin, a lot of those bulls will eaisly go up 1800-2000 pounds. HS

T S
07-26-2007, 01:55 PM
robin do you still have the picture that i sent you of that brindle bull ? he is a F1 tiger stripe ...

LGilmore
07-26-2007, 04:29 PM
Here are a couple of my cows and a bull that bucks really good.

http://www.gforcebulls.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/Copy_of_Picture_298.jpg


http://www.gforcebulls.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/Picture_316.jpg


http://www.gforcebulls.com/Quickstart/ImageLib/web_bull_2.JPG



They are very good mothers. Lee

CALAMAITY JANE
07-26-2007, 04:33 PM
WHATS THE NAME OF THE BULL AND HOW OLD IS HE?

LGilmore
07-26-2007, 05:38 PM
His name is 810 JIM BOWIE. He is about 4 1/2 years old.

Bullet
07-26-2007, 06:02 PM
F1 cattle are the first cross from a purebred cow and purebred bull of different breeds. I guess the colors are just luck.

Rafter W
07-26-2007, 06:09 PM
The F1 or first filial cross was first described by Mendel (1865). The F1 cross is generally given very little attention in most genetics textbooks. These books seldom discuss its analytical power, especially in relationship to sex-linked traits and the different dominance relationships. All too often the F1 cross is treated as a "trivial" cross that one does on the way to "more interesting crosses" such as the F2 (second filial cross) or the various backcrosses.

Just a textbook definition basically saying that an F1 is the result of breeding a purebred male from one breed to a purebred female of a seperate breed. The term F1 is not recognized as a breed of cattle but the cross of two breeds of cattle. F1 crosses are also used when talking about crossing plant species or even dogs.

diamondj
07-26-2007, 06:16 PM
I've got alot of brindles by Saltwater when bred to dark hided cow's. Mostly from red cow's.

billsummers
07-26-2007, 08:51 PM
Here's one of my Tiger Stripes

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m144/billsummers_2006/TigerStripe.jpg

ronefx
07-27-2007, 01:03 AM
calamity jane i know a contractor that will sell you a trailer load of brindles, some off the you can barely fit in the bucking chute b/c they are that big. they have some good buckers and are for sale. or do like some and go to the sell barn, buy the bulls and buck em out if they dont buck take em back, you probably still will break even at least.