look at the bid

[JustinCrawford]

http://www.buyabucker.com/profile.asp?id=4209


seriously if your just gonna bid $50 ytf even bid? thats like disrepectful in my opinion

[bucku]

Justin lot 4212 has a bid if $25. Boy their sellin big now.

[JustinCrawford]

I know the unbucked cattle arent brining what they did a couple years ago and as well they shouldnt, but dang for some one to bid like that, seriously.

[romkema1]

I was thinking the same thing and wasn't sure if it was appropriate to comment on here about. Yeah and then they have the guts to put their names next to that bid, there ain't one person that is going to take people serious that do that. Somebody did that to the Hammertime I put on the other site to $10 opening bid

[yatahey]

Justin I agree, as the disrespect thing I have bid $25 dollars to get my point across to someone, once...

[KyleFerdig]

I can explain the 50.00 bid. I only bid that because it was an IVF! And I wouldnt pay much for an IVF, so its not disrespectful, just in my OPINION only I am not willing to pay much for IVF's. Now if its traditional I would pay more. that is the only reason. Plus at no reserve and I know many others would agree with me that IVF's dont have the conception rate, so why pay as much as a traditional flush.


Kyle Ferdig
Anderson MO
417-364-7072

[KyleFerdig]

sorry guys I am a retard!!! I thought you where talking about an embryo lot. My bad, guess I should read on more! I am a lil slow today!! I would never bid that on a bull. I was bidding 50 on an embryo!!!

Kyle Ferdig
Anderson MO
417-364-7072

[JustinCrawford]

kyle this isnt the IVF deal, this is a bull for sale on buy a bucker.

[KyleFerdig]

Sorry Justin, like I said I am slow today!! I just finished building a bunch of fence this morning and I just havent had enough coffee!!! I agree with you on the bull though that is crazy, it gets me too when people dont even bid killer price.

Kyle Ferdig
Anderson MO
417-364-7072

[romkema1]

This is an inherent problem with internet style auctions. The bottom has to first be established someway without the aid of an auctioneer so the serious bidding can begin and so I try not to get too upset with low bids on the front end. It's the back end that sometimes is frustrating and a bit insulting at times when the reserve is not met. The other thing that is unique to internet auctions is that all the lots are sold and closed at one time, whereas, in standard sale barn type auctions, each lot is sold before the next one is bid on. I think that makes a big difference, for example, if there are 10 lots being auctioned and 5 are so good that a bidder would love to have any of the 5 lots, but intends to buy only 2 because that's all he can afford to spend. How does he do that on the internet style auction? Impossible. The internet style auction undoubtedly has a place for several reasons, but I still really like the old sale barn type auctions knowing if I miss one, I still got 4 more lots where I can bid hard to try to get 2 bought. JMHO

Rgds,
cj

You make a really good point there, and that problem could actually be solved by just alterting the time at then end a little bit. Never really thought about that

[richard]

makes a lot of knowledge to me

[Sanders Rocking RJS]

http://www.buyabucker.com/profile.asp?id=4209


seriously if your just gonna bid $50 ytf even bid? thats like disrepectful in my opinion

Hi Justin,

This wasn't my bid but if I'm interested in the stock I may bid a low $$ just to remind myself that's one(s) I'm definitely interested in continuing to bid on. Not bidding on it low $$ to disrespect anyone at any time. It's to help my old mind :oopz: to remind me that I've already done my research and to keep on bidding :hurray:... so if anyone ever sees Rick or I bid a low bid it's just for our "old brains" :confused: lol.

Jamie

[JustinCrawford]

i can see bidding low, but when you bid $50.oo on a calf that will bring $350-400 at the sale barn????? i will bet if thiscalf gets over a couple hundred bucks, the person that bid on that lot will not bid again, would almost bet if it gets over 100 bucks.

[payetteriverrodeo]

One thing about an auction, there has to be a starting bid and a ending bid. the only one that really matters is the ending bid. If the lot only brought 50.00 then I guess the OWNER could have a gripe. JMO

Dave

[rodeostockyard.com]

:yeahthat:


I agree!! You need some one to start the bidding! Low or reasonable it really dosn't matter. Its the ending bid that counts! We have alot of great lots that never even get a bid. So a low ball bid would be nice sometimes! If the seller is selling a lot at no reserve he/she sould expect a low ball offer to start! Thats the way thing go! JMO!!!:smash:

[rodeostockyard.com]

Dave are you kin to Snorkel??

[payetteriverrodeo]

Man I hate to admit this in public but yeah he is a cousin. I guess he really isnt that bad if ya only get to see him once or twice a year. We give each other a lot of guff and really do get along well he sure travels alot most of the year.

Dave

[bturpitt]

These low bids do make a guy sick. Like they've said on here, its the final one that counts. It's like the horse sales anymore, Ive seen alot of $75 just to get it going. It should be a no brainer what these cattle would weigh up. Trucking is what is killing us all. Say it takes $600 to buy one its going to cost atleast that again to get the critter home if your lucky. If any of you havent read snorkels book you have to get one. He gave my son one at a mid-states rodeo.Good guy!!!:cigar:

[swingcitybloodstock]

The easy way to solve this problem would be to have a starting bid of say for example $200 or even better yet have Nate check and see what the cattle Market is doing and lets say the bull weighs 1500 lbs. X todays avg. $0.55 = $825.00 set the stock in at market price that way if no one is willing to pay that price or bid above at least it gives the consignor something to think about. Just a thought.

Take Care
Phillip

[Aferguson]

On buckerbarn.com the auctions dont close on the same dates, just a week from when they are consigned. There is also an option to post a starting bid.

[mbower]

Why not work it like Ebay and have them all start at $1 and go up from there with automated bids, thus meaning if I want a bull and I reckon Im willing to pay $1000 I would set my maximum bid at ,the whole auction starts at $1 which if im the first person to bid will be me then as other people set there maximum bid the computer automaticcally bids to the maximums. I could then buy the bull for any amount up to the $1000 but once it gets to that I have to up my max bid or miss out. Im not the best at explaining things but thats the way it works. Somebody on here may use Ebay and may be able to explain it better.

[romkema1]

Why not work it like Ebay and have them all start at $1 and go up from there with automated bids, thus meaning if I want a bull and I reckon Im willing to pay $1000 I would set my maximum bid at ,the whole auction starts at $1 which if im the first person to bid will be me then as other people set there maximum bid the computer automaticcally bids to the maximums. I could then buy the bull for any amount up to the $1000 but once it gets to that I have to up my max bid or miss out. Im not the best at explaining things but thats the way it works. Somebody on here may use Ebay and may be able to explain it better.

Thats how Wes' sight is set up, works pretty good.

[THEBULLWHISPERER]

I don't see what the big deal is. The owner sets if he or she wants a reserve or not! If they don't put a reserve on the item up for auction its their own doing. If the owner wanted a certain amount then he/she could set the reserve! What in the world is the big deal? If you consign on an auction, you willingly are risking a chance of it going for lower than you hoped or you might get lucky and get more than you thought! Thats what an auction is!

[Zip]

The draw of selling something in an auction is that oftentimes the item can bring more than it would otherwise.

The draw to buying something at auction is the possibility of getting something for less than it is worth, which is an illusion a lot of times.

In the real world buying and selling of goods, there is no such thing as disrespect. People buy stuff for a fraction of what it's worth all the time. Things are worth what someone is willing to pay. If no one is willing to pay more than $50 for your bull as a bucking bull, then that's what he's worth. If you can get more at a sale barn, you should take him there. If that thought hurts your feelings, then you shouldn't be in the business of buying and selling things, because your feelings have little to do with it. Do you feel remorse for lowballing a car salesman?

I used to work for a man who bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of heavy equipment parts a day, and the huge bulk of it was bought at 10 cents on the dollar or less. It's just business.

[THEBULLWHISPERER]

:yeahthat:

I agree! Nicely Said

[stewart gulager]

Auction is a auction thats the reason for going to a auction is to try and buy something worth the money. If a guy thinks his animal is worth so much then set a reserve and hope you get it.

[rockinwestcattleco]

The draw of selling something in an auction is that oftentimes the item can bring more than it would otherwise.

The draw to buying something at auction is the possibility of getting something for less than it is worth, which is an illusion a lot of times.

In the real world buying and selling of goods, there is no such thing as disrespect. People buy stuff for a fraction of what it's worth all the time. Things are worth what someone is willing to pay. If no one is willing to pay more than $50 for your bull as a bucking bull, then that's what he's worth. If you can get more at a sale barn, you should take him there. If that thought hurts your feelings, then you shouldn't be in the business of buying and selling things, because your feelings have little to do with it. Do you feel remorse for lowballing a car salesman?

I used to work for a man who bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of heavy equipment parts a day, and the huge bulk of it was bought at 10 cents on the dollar or less. It's just business.

:yeahthat:

[Spur H]

Thats how Wes' sight is set up, works pretty good.

I'm not a big fan on how that site is set up (rodeostockyard). I don't like getting timed out, or having all the bidding done in the last 30 seconds of the auction. I like how these other sites are set up with the auction being prolonged by 15 min, as long as the bidding keeps going. Gives you time to chew it over and see if you want to bid again. JMO.:beatdeadhorse:

[bittersweet]

The draw of selling something in an auction is that oftentimes the item can bring more than it would otherwise.

The draw to buying something at auction is the possibility of getting something for less than it is worth, which is an illusion a lot of times.

In the real world buying and selling of goods, there is no such thing as disrespect. People buy stuff for a fraction of what it's worth all the time. Things are worth what someone is willing to pay. If no one is willing to pay more than $50 for your bull as a bucking bull, then that's what he's worth. If you can get more at a sale barn, you should take him there. If that thought hurts your feelings, then you shouldn't be in the business of buying and selling things, because your feelings have little to do with it. Do you feel remorse for lowballing a car salesman?

I used to work for a man who bought tens of thousands of dollars worth of heavy equipment parts a day, and the huge bulk of it was bought at 10 cents on the dollar or less. It's just business.

but, I absolutely agree with you.

[T S]

The easy way to solve this problem would be to have a starting bid of say for example $200 or even better yet have Nate check and see what the cattle Market is doing and lets say the bull weighs 1500 lbs. X todays avg. $0.55 = $825.00 set the stock in at market price that way if no one is willing to pay that price or bid above at least it gives the consignor something to think about. Just a thought.

Take Care
Phillip

i understand what you are saying , HOWEVER , there is alot of bucking bred cattle that are on these auctions every week that i would not feed if you gave them to me , much less pay kill price for them and have to truck them on top of that .... in my opinion i have seen several lots bring what i believe to be way more than what the lot is worth and the reserve is still not met , if someone has the guts to put such a ridiculous reserve on an animal they are being just as disrespectful as the guy bidding 25.00 on a lot

personally , i could not care less what people are bidding and not bidding ... whatever you are selling or buying is worth whatever you will receive or give for such item

SEE YA .......

[rockinwestcattleco]

i understand what you are saying , HOWEVER , there is alot of bucking bred cattle that are on these auctions every week that i would not feed if you gave them to me , much less pay kill price for them and have to truck them on top of that .... in my opinion i have seen several lots bring what i believe to be way more than what the lot is worth and the reserve is still not met , if someone has the guts to put such a ridiculous reserve on an animal they are being just as disrespectful as the guy bidding 25.00 on a lot

personally , i could not care less what people are bidding and not bidding ... whatever you are selling or buying is worth whatever you will receive or give for such item

SEE YA .......


:iagree: that ain't no lie

[BAR C3]

Unfortunately the going rate for slaughter cattle is better than rodeo cattle in my area. So that could be much worse than you all expect. I got 20 cents a pound for a horned rodeo cow. :pieface: I think the fair way to do it is set a minimum based on a percentage of the reserve. Bids won't be accepted until the minimum is met???? I don't how your going to please everyone on this.

[rodeostockyard.com]

Chad,

Ours is simple! Put in the highest bid you want to place and it does the work for you! No extended time or any bs just your highest bid! Its worked for e-bay for a few years.....

[robbuckingbulls]

My opinion is that if you put it on for no reserve your telling people you'll take whatever you can get for it so they are going to bid low and try and get it as cheap as they can. Because if it is on for no reserve there is a reason it is no reserve .And if it has a reserve on it who cares what they bid it has to start somewhere low bid or high bid it has to meet the reserve to sell anyway.