View Full Version : Define Kick for me.
hill77
08-22-2008, 03:26 PM
To me, just because a bulls butt is in the air does not mean he is kicking. i think kick = legs extended behind his butt toward the sky. maybe i'm wrong but a bull kicking at his bellie does not = "Kick"
just my opinion and thats all
tell me about it please
doubledcattle
08-22-2008, 04:08 PM
I agree with you.
romkema1
08-22-2008, 04:40 PM
:yeahthat:
There was a bull for sale on one of the sites a while back that was said to have a ton of kick. I watched the video and all he did was kick at his flank. He got it caught one time and about came down on one leg. Alot of people say that the flank might be too tight.
WB BUCKING BULLS
08-22-2008, 05:35 PM
its just like u explained watch some old pbrs with like big bucks he kicks!
Straw Boss
03-12-2009, 11:42 AM
I agree with what everyone has said, however in my humble opinion kick has beed way over rated as a quality in the last couple of years. A bull that has a lot of kick is not necessarily any harder to ride than one that kicks at his belly. In fact, kick can help the rider to get back to the front more times than not. A bull with a full extension kick is a crowd pleaser and seems to be becoming a judge pleaser, but kick does not always go hand in hand with the degree of difficulty in a bucking bull. Once again, its just my humble opinion and may not be very popular with some.
highstakes
03-12-2009, 11:50 AM
kick has beed way over rated as a quality in the last couple of years. A bull that has a lot of kick is not necessarily any harder to ride than one that kicks at his belly. In fact, kick can help the rider to get back to the front more times than not.
:rofl:
You may be right in some cases, but Kick is also what bucks em off. Bulls do two things jump and kick if you can ride that and ride it right they will pack you right or left it dont matter what way they go if your in the right spot.
Plus i have seen bulls learn to turn back that didnt at first. I havent ever heard anyone say they could teach one how to kick.
JMO as well:pop:
Straw Boss
03-12-2009, 12:02 PM
:rofl:
You may be right in some cases, but Kick is also what bucks em off. Bulls do two things jump and kick if you can ride that and ride it right they will pack you right or left it dont matter what way they go if your in the right spot.
Plus i have seen bulls learn to turn back that didnt at first. I havent ever heard anyone say they could teach one how to kick.
JMO as well:pop:
What you say is true. A bull like Apollo has Kick. He's hard to ride. Thre are also other bulls that are hard to ride that have very little kick. I like to see a bull kick with full extension. It's fun to watch. A bull that almost knocks you off the back of the chute is rank. I'm not saying kick is a bad thing, only that not every bull that kicks is rank. I probably should have stuck with the original subject, "define kick". Kick, to me, is full extension not kicking at the flank or the spurs.
highstakes
03-12-2009, 12:09 PM
http://www.midwestbreedersalliance.com/sitebuilder/images/cajun_enid-600x455.jpg
:rofl:
... but Kick is also what bucks em off.
I can only speak for myself, but LACK OF kick bucked me off more times than any other thing.
highstakes
03-12-2009, 12:16 PM
http://www.midwestbreedersalliance.com/sitebuilder/images/-8netron-600x403.jpg
highstakes
03-12-2009, 12:20 PM
I can only speak for myself, but LACK OF kick bucked me off more times than any other thing.
It might have sat you on your butt and run you off your rope for a no score........... IMO the have to be kicking to be bucking ????
highstakes
03-12-2009, 12:30 PM
http://www.midwestbreedersalliance.com/sitebuilder/images/854-600x355.jpg
Moser Cattle Company
03-12-2009, 12:48 PM
Tom teagues bull chance has alot of kick:cigar:
Travis Eckroth
03-12-2009, 12:56 PM
I like Troubador, Apollo, Jacobs Pet, Showtime.....
Mudslinger, Unforgiven...
all have different degree of difficulty, some stay in the air more, some faster and have snap, but all have kick.
.......... IMO the have to be kicking to be bucking ????
Not really- http://www.pbr.tv/pbr/console.jsp?catid=15&id=1477
That bull sure is bucking the whole time, but he sure isn't kicking the whole time.
JeremyWillis
03-12-2009, 01:05 PM
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2630/64/53/1239878507/n1239878507_30239713_683010.jpg
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2630/64/53/1239878507/n1239878507_30239713_683010.jpg
That bull is halfway kicking anyway Jeremy. Looks like you need to improve your genetics until you get bulls that kick 100%. A bull bred right ought to kick with both feet.... :nana:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2630/64/53/1239878507/n1239878507_30239713_683010.jpg
I THINK THAT BULL IS DEAD AND JEREMY IS HANGING HIM UP WITH ONE LEG !
SERIOUSLY.. THAT IS A KICKING SOB !
The one thing about a bull's kicking that DOES get him some buckoffs is if a bull kicks with his feet extended, whether he is straight up and down, kicking straight out behind himself or to one side with some roll... If he reaches full extension before his front feet hit, then it adds an extra jolt just at the time when the rider ought to be making his adjustment.
EGBUCKINGBULLS
03-12-2009, 01:29 PM
HEIFER OUT OF 238 HITMAN SHE HAS SOME WHAT I CALL KICK.http://bullbayauction.com/uploaded/rad1B65D3.JPG
EARL GRIFFITH
EGBUCKINGBULLS
972-983-9007
2009 PAID ADVERTISER
rhinestone
03-12-2009, 02:03 PM
That kind of kicking scares me for the animal......... :yikes:
http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/tsbuckingbulls/TH83_1.jpg
I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF I COULD POST A PICTURE ON HERE !
I HAVE NEVER TRIED TO POST ONE ON THIS SITE
richard
03-12-2009, 10:56 PM
I call that a belly roll
bittersweet
03-13-2009, 07:29 AM
http://www.midwestbreedersalliance.com/sitebuilder/images/cajun_enid-600x455.jpg
we purchased from Jake Stubbs & Chad Scott..Wish I had a bunch more just like him. CAJUN NIGHTS! :hurray:
bittersweet
03-31-2009, 05:26 PM
http://www.midwestbreedersalliance.com/sitebuilder/images/cajun_enid-600x455.jpg
Cajun was the first bull I ever bought..and he died way too soon..
Well, I just found that last night..our cow, Curly Sue gave birth to a bull calf out of Cajun Nights..:omg::cheers::party::hurray:I can hardly wait to see him!
artman182
03-31-2009, 05:32 PM
Two really good examples that come to mind are Troubadour on the cover of Bull Pen from two years ago (I think) and Apollo this past weekend.
Arthur
Little Stew
03-31-2009, 05:35 PM
IS THIS KICK???
http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq318/Stewey_/?action=view¤t=Cap-2.flv
BUBBA NELSON
03-31-2009, 06:10 PM
I dont know if this link will work but if you type it in it will work.
http://3bartbuckingbulls.com/morebucks.wmv
bubba nelson
fannett, tx
409-651-6772
ajaxbulls
03-31-2009, 08:54 PM
KP 687 (AKA Hanging Rock) Rafter S Ranch OK
IS THIS KICK???
http://s459.photobucket.com/albums/qq318/Stewey_/?action=view¤t=Cap-2.flv
THAT LOOKS LIKE CODY OHL TO ME ????
HEY BRANDON WHAT IS THE BREEDING ON THAT CALF ?
I dont know if this link will work but if you type it in it will work.
http://3bartbuckingbulls.com/morebucks.wmv
bubba nelson
fannett, tx
409-651-6772
BUBBA HE IS TRYING TO KICK !
:omg:
Scooter
04-01-2009, 12:24 AM
Jake does Cajun Nights go back to Vicki's 79 Rajun Cajun?
BloydBuckingBulls
04-01-2009, 09:45 AM
To me, just because a bulls butt is in the air does not mean he is kicking. i think kick = legs extended behind his butt toward the sky. maybe i'm wrong but a bull kicking at his bellie does not = "Kick"
just my opinion and thats all
tell me about it please
Justin, that is exactly right. I watch these bucking stock sales on RFD and listen to the MC talk about how much a bull is kicking and his legs never extend at all. It annoys the crap out of me. If you've never rode bulls and haven't been around bullriding long then I can see how a person could be misled to think that a bull is kicking when he's really just throwing his butt in the air. Certain announcers on bullriding broadcasts mention "kick" a lot when a bull is really not kicking, and those guys know bullriding. I don't get it.
It makes a world of difference to a rider when a bull is really kicking. They are much harder to ride than one that just spins and throws his rear end in the air.
mike carreon
04-01-2009, 09:53 AM
:iagree:
Rockin A
04-01-2009, 10:04 AM
Highstakes put a picture up of an example of good kick. Im with you extended all the way out the back .
AceofSpades
04-01-2009, 10:09 AM
I dont know if this link will work but if you type it in it will work.
http://3bartbuckingbulls.com/morebucks.wmv
bubba nelson
fannett, tx
409-651-6772
I believe Bubba has provided a perfect example of Kick in my opininion. Go More Bucks.
Wow,
God Bless
BloydBuckingBulls
04-01-2009, 10:40 AM
2007 Heifer with "kick". She should be calving any second now.
www.bloydbuckingbulls.com/blacksugar.wmv
Summerrain
04-01-2009, 10:48 AM
Question for all you that do this so much with heifers and bull calves
I was told by some in this biz that Heifers , pretty much most the time for some reason have more kick than a bull calf
Do you that buck your heifers find this to be true for the most part??
Rafter H Rodeo Co.
04-01-2009, 01:07 PM
There is a picture floating around of #18 Salty Cat that sure enough defends the meaning of "kick". If anyone can find it post it. I would but i'm doing this from my phone. Lol. #18 Salty Cat was raised by Eddie Suttle. He has some sons of him that also have those same characteristics.
rghstkcwby
04-01-2009, 02:06 PM
HEIFER OUT OF 238 HITMAN SHE HAS SOME WHAT I CALL KICK.http://bullbayauction.com/uploaded/rad1B65D3.JPG
EARL GRIFFITH
EGBUCKINGBULLS
972-983-9007
2009 PAID ADVERTISER
that is gettin VERTICAL!!!!!!!!!
i a bull just puttin its butt in the air helps you get back to your rope but when it kicks thats a different story!!! i agree with pretty much what everyone has said about kick...now wether on or both legs are fully extended...those pics really just depends on exactly when the pic was taken....some can kick so fast its hard to catch unless you can get the timing down & have a fast camera...JMO.....
but i also love a kbull that has a great belly roll and kicks real hard to the side...VERY difficult to ride in my opinion....
bittersweet
04-01-2009, 02:15 PM
Jake does Cajun Nights go back to Vicki's 79 Rajun Cajun?
Yes, Cajun did, on his dam's side.
Summerrain
04-01-2009, 03:10 PM
Im posting this for Shawn Runyan, this is Jacobs Pet , Last yr
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/491JacobsPetSvilleTXAGjpg.jpg
highstakes
04-01-2009, 03:15 PM
Jake does Cajun Nights go back to Vicki's 79 Rajun Cajun?
Chad Scott Rasied him and still has the cow he is out of.
To tell the truth Cajun nights goes back to 79 3 times:yikes:
He had more like a family reath then a tree :speed_eek:
bittersweet
04-01-2009, 05:03 PM
Chad Scott Rasied him and still has the cow he is out of.
To tell the truth Cajun nights goes back to 79 3 times:yikes:
He had more like a family reath then a tree :speed_eek:
You watch that Jake:pokeowned:..don't be talking about Cajun that way. Just 'cause his family tree :omg:didn't have any branches on it..wasn't his fault.
rghstkcwby
04-01-2009, 05:12 PM
Chad Scott Rasied him and still has the cow he is out of.
To tell the truth Cajun nights goes back to 79 3 times:yikes:
He had more like a family reath then a tree :speed_eek:
:omg: now thats funny!!!!
JeremyWillis
04-01-2009, 07:29 PM
...he's really just throwing his butt in the air.
How about I throw your butt in the air?
:pokeowned:
Summerrain
04-01-2009, 08:35 PM
Im posting this for Dakota, Randy
This is Oscar's Velvet over a Whitewater daughter that has a little bit of kick
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/vlcsnap-56206.png
Dakota
04-01-2009, 08:44 PM
Im posting this for Dakota, Randy
This is Oscar's Velvet over a Whitewater daughter that has a little bit of kick
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/vlcsnap-56206.png
Not as good as the rest of you have posted but he is coming around.
HERE IS A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF KICK !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLpEZ-a83A
Rafter H Rodeo Co.
04-02-2009, 02:33 AM
HERE IS A PRETTY GOOD EXAMPLE OF KICK !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuLpEZ-a83A
i would say so!!! Lol. I wonder if she's for sale? Lol. I may have a spot for her in my herd.
rghstkcwby
04-02-2009, 04:37 AM
now thats a great cow!
Summerrain
04-02-2009, 09:47 AM
Im posting this for Jason Aduddell, one of his:)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/_DSC0041.jpg
M_Wilfong
04-02-2009, 12:52 PM
It's good to see this topic posted so people can understand. I agree with those that define "kick" as FULL extension. Some people probably don't understand until they see it and have the difference explained. All the time on TV I hear "that bull really kicked", when all it did was whirl around and scratch it's belly. At the bottom of this page is an example of what we like to see in mature bulls we raise (notice how high the front feet are off the ground in both the vertical and horizontal kicks): http://www.wilfongbuckingbulls.com/BULLS.html
We bucked a handful of late 2008 calves yesterday, and this is the kick we like to see in the heifers and bull calves: http://wilfong.smugmug.com/gallery/7691514_NcjiW#503607151_cWFHH-A-LB
velvet87
04-02-2009, 06:01 PM
It's good to see this topic posted so people can understand. I agree with those that define "kick" as FULL extension. Some people probably don't understand until they see it and have the difference explained. All the time on TV I hear "that bull really kicked", when all it did was whirl around and scratch it's belly. At the bottom of this page is an example of what we like to see in mature bulls we raise (notice how high the front feet are off the ground in both the vertical and horizontal kicks): http://www.wilfongbuckingbulls.com/BULLS.html
We bucked a handful of late 2008 calves yesterday, and this is the kick we like to see in the heifers and bull calves: http://wilfong.smugmug.com/gallery/7691514_NcjiW#503607151_cWFHH-A-LB
melanie....those calves have kick.... those pics describe kick just like the rest of the pics on the post...
M_Wilfong
04-02-2009, 08:37 PM
:iagree: You're right. They kick just like the rest of them. Sorry for being redundant. Now let's see something new. How about somebody posting pictures or video of their clones kicking. :toetap:
Summerrain
04-02-2009, 10:41 PM
:iagree:
Tyner
04-02-2009, 11:48 PM
http://Nacarrato Bull Calf 001
Dirty Girl Kickin
Summerrain
04-03-2009, 04:19 PM
Im posting this for Hiner Bucking Bulls
the black calf is a heifer, BY: ROOSTER BOOSTER OUT: of JUST PUSH PLAY DAUGHTER, the white calf is a bull, BY: ROOSTER BOOSTER OUT: of WILD BILL DAUGHTER.
SPECIAL NOTE ROOSTER BOOSTER THROWS NICE CALVES check out behindthebarnoline
http://www.behindthebarnonline.com/BULLSBULLCALVES.html
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/heifer.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/bullss.jpg
Thanks, SR for the post:)
M_Wilfong
04-04-2009, 10:58 AM
Those Hiner calves are really nice! They not only kick, they got some movement to them too.
rghstkcwby
04-05-2009, 05:44 PM
It's good to see this topic posted so people can understand. I agree with those that define "kick" as FULL extension. Some people probably don't understand until they see it and have the difference explained. All the time on TV I hear "that bull really kicked", when all it did was whirl around and scratch it's belly. At the bottom of this page is an example of what we like to see in mature bulls we raise (notice how high the front feet are off the ground in both the vertical and horizontal kicks): http://www.wilfongbuckingbulls.com/BULLS.html
We bucked a handful of late 2008 calves yesterday, and this is the kick we like to see in the heifers and bull calves: http://wilfong.smugmug.com/gallery/7691514_NcjiW#503607151_cWFHH-A-LB
All i gotta say is DAAAYYYUUMMMMM!! That black calf was VERTICAL!!!!! :yikes::yikes::yikes: WOW! Those are a great set good luck with them! :cigar:
Rebano Ranch Bucking Bull
04-06-2009, 01:34 AM
Justin, that is exactly right. I watch these bucking stock sales on RFD and listen to the MC talk about how much a bull is kicking and his legs never extend at all. It annoys the crap out of me. If you've never rode bulls and haven't been around bullriding long then I can see how a person could be misled to think that a bull is kicking when he's really just throwing his butt in the air. Certain announcers on bullriding broadcasts mention "kick" a lot when a bull is really not kicking, and those guys know bullriding. I don't get it.
It makes a world of difference to a rider when a bull is really kicking. They are much harder to ride than one that just spins and throws his rear end in the air.
I don't know how many where paying attention to what JW Hart was saying tonight but I found it interesting after seeing this thread, I think he may have seen it. He made a comment after White Magic bucked off Robson Palermo tonight that many would consider White Magic not to have any kick cause he kicks more at his belly than have kick over his head, but he always found it harder to ride than a bull who fully extends. I mean White Magic is a solid short round bull that I am sure everyone on here would love to haul even though he doesn't "Kick". I mean I know that I am probably going to have some people call me an idiot or something like that but I thought the purpose was to buck off riders as much as possible. I had a short lived bull riding career do to injury and going off to the service but if you asked someone what was harder to ride White Magic or say Troubadour I know what most would say. I guess I sort of got off the topic a bit, but it seemed like most people on here seemed like they would almost cull a bull for kicking at his belly than extending fully and thought I would point out a bull that I would love to have If Mr. Obama would give me a bail out of some sort. I don't need 100 Million or anything a simple 1 million would be sufficient. :rant:
M_Wilfong
04-06-2009, 08:49 AM
I don't know how many where paying attention to what JW Hart was saying tonight but I found it interesting after seeing this thread, I think he may have seen it. He made a comment after White Magic bucked off Robson Palermo tonight that many would consider White Magic not to have any kick cause he kicks more at his belly than have kick over his head, but he always found it harder to ride than a bull who fully extends. I mean White Magic is a solid short round bull that I am sure everyone on here would love to haul even though he doesn't "Kick". I mean I know that I am probably going to have some people call me an idiot or something like that but I thought the purpose was to buck off riders as much as possible. I had a short lived bull riding career do to injury and going off to the service but if you asked someone what was harder to ride White Magic or say Troubadour I know what most would say. I guess I sort of got off the topic a bit, but it seemed like most people on here seemed like they would almost cull a bull for kicking at his belly than extending fully and thought I would point out a bull that I would love to have If Mr. Obama would give me a bail out of some sort. I don't need 100 Million or anything a simple 1 million would be sufficient. :rant:
That's what's great about someone starting this thread asking for opinions about kick. You've got an opinion just like everyone else and I doubt anyone will jump on you for it. There are many that would cull the calves I posted because they don't spin right in the latch. Some like belly kickers and some actually like flat-spinners, too. Flat spinners and belly kickers get culled here, but to each his own. I've seen all of the above at the big show. Yeah, the loping along, slow bulls that fully extend are easy to ride just like a jumping horse. Add the snap, blow in the air and a roll or two, and that easy to ride kick is a whole different story.
M_Wilfong
04-06-2009, 09:09 AM
All i gotta say is DAAAYYYUUMMMMM!! That black calf was VERTICAL!!!!! :yikes::yikes::yikes: WOW! Those are a great set good luck with them! :cigar:
Thank you.:cheers:
mike carreon
04-06-2009, 09:18 AM
I don't know how many where paying attention to what JW Hart was saying tonight but I found it interesting after seeing this thread, I think he may have seen it. He made a comment after White Magic bucked off Robson Palermo tonight that many would consider White Magic not to have any kick cause he kicks more at his belly than have kick over his head, but he always found it harder to ride than a bull who fully extends. I mean White Magic is a solid short round bull that I am sure everyone on here would love to haul even though he doesn't "Kick". I mean I know that I am probably going to have some people call me an idiot or something like that but I thought the purpose was to buck off riders as much as possible. I had a short lived bull riding career do to injury and going off to the service but if you asked someone what was harder to ride White Magic or say Troubadour I know what most would say. I guess I sort of got off the topic a bit, but it seemed like most people on here seemed like they would almost cull a bull for kicking at his belly than extending fully and thought I would point out a bull that I would love to have If Mr. Obama would give me a bail out of some sort. I don't need 100 Million or anything a simple 1 million would be sufficient. :rant:
I agree with JW, they do set you up on your rope better if they extend. Bulls are harder to ride if they kick at their belly. But a lunging, arm jerking, belly rolling pig that doesn't kick is one of the hardest bulls to ride. Most call them eliminators...I think the purpose of the event is to sell tickets not just buck guys off or you would see more eliminators.
John Mac Bulls
04-06-2009, 09:56 AM
A lot of kick pictures , but where's the pictures with a cowboy on his back with lots a kick? Might of missed it !
JeremyWillis
04-06-2009, 10:10 AM
A lot of kick pictures , but where's the pictures with a cowboy on his back with lots a kick? Might of missed it !
The picture of my calf was when we bucked him with a dummy @ 15 months.
We wait till they are a bit older to put a rider on them! :pop:
M_Wilfong
04-06-2009, 10:20 AM
A lot of kick pictures , but where's the pictures with a cowboy on his back with lots a kick? Might of missed it !
You must have missed it, because the mature bulls I referred too show one cowboy on the ground and one on the bull. As for the calves, we don't buck our weanlings with a cowboy. In fact, we don't put a cowboy on them till they are three.
ronefx
04-06-2009, 11:17 AM
these are some weanlings(hefs & bulls) of ours and i dont know much, but i do like to see em kick like that.
http://www.ezebuckingbulls.com/cremebuck.jpg
http://www.ezebuckingbulls.com/madisonbuck.jpg
http://www.ezebuckingbulls.com/midnightbuck.jpg
http://www.ezebuckingbulls.com/whopalopbuck.jpg
http://www.ezebuckingbulls.com/rbbuck.jpg
hill77
04-06-2009, 11:25 AM
in my humble opinion,
after a guy has been on a few, it really won't matter to him whether the bull he has drawn kicks at his belly or at the moon.
to that guy, the ones that kick at the moon will mearly provide him with a better picture to buy the next weekend.
The Pipe Doctor
04-06-2009, 12:00 PM
Looks like some of the bulls at the big show are getting more score than they deserve to me. Some scores are the same or close when one extends and the ones that don't.
Todd Brewer Photography
04-06-2009, 01:35 PM
Apollo's been kicking for a while now, this is from NBBA Finals 2007 with Aaron Pass on board:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2242/2265693384_57bb9c6ca6_o.jpg
One of Mitch Terrell's calves @ the Woodward NBBA show last year:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2048/2420139408_d161990388_o.jpg
And Lufkin Ranch and Rodeo's bull Rebel, in Lufkin at the CBR event this past February, he's kicking too. Danny McDowell got hung up.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3384/3418838306_665f8c5c86_o.jpg
More photos from the CBR's this year and other events:
http://www.printroom.com/ghome.asp?domain_name=toddbrewerimages
Bulls-N-Boars
04-06-2009, 02:22 PM
Looks like some of the bulls at the big show are getting more score than they deserve to me. Some scores are the same or close when one extends and the ones that don't.
I agree and Albequerie New Mexico, was terrible.
M_Wilfong
04-06-2009, 10:18 PM
Great pics, Todd!
Here's a pic of BW 07 High Society with a cowboy on his back. The picture was taken when he was a 3 yr. old but didn't ever get marked very high at the classics because they "didn't get to see enough of him". He was also unridden last weekend at Graham and marked 23.5 pts.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/stylishranchgirl/homepage5a2.jpg
Here's 72/2 Misfit, a son of The Darkness:
He was marked high and Brian Herman won the bull riding on him.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/stylishranchgirl/72a.jpg
Dakota
04-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Great pics, Todd!
Here's a pic of BW 07 High Society with a cowboy on his back. The picture was taken when he was a 3 yr. old but didn't ever get marked very high at the classics because they "didn't get to see enough of him". He was also unridden last weekend at Graham and marked 24 pts.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/stylishranchgirl/homepage5a2.jpg
Here's 72/2 Misfit, a son of The Darkness:
He was marked high and Brian Herman won the bull riding on him.
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh58/stylishranchgirl/72a.jpg
Very nice animals. :winner:
M_Wilfong
04-06-2009, 11:14 PM
Thank you. I like that one of your's Marcia posted too:cheers:
BUBBA NELSON
04-07-2009, 10:16 AM
Melanie,
We had the same problem with More Bucks when JB Mauney got on him.
Judges said they also "did not see enough of him". I think that is BS. If the bull bucks he bucks. I understand what they are saying but sometimes I just dont agree with it. Same thing with brendan clark at the finals. A little disappointing.
BUBBA NELSON
FANNETT, TX
409-651-6772
M_Wilfong
04-07-2009, 11:41 AM
Bubba, I know what you mean. You have to think long and hard about what bull to play because the best one you have may not even get a check. If you do get a check it wont pay for eid ear tags or registration unless you get that 20 head an hour rate, and are telepathic enough to register the winning bull when he's a weaner without registering your whole calf crop.
A. Pearson
04-07-2009, 01:35 PM
that is gettin VERTICAL!!!!!!!!!
but i also love a kbull that has a great belly roll and kicks real hard to the side...VERY difficult to ride in my opinion....
Very good point. One that can clack em and roll toward a riders hand is very hard to recover from if you catch the roll.
A. Pearson
04-07-2009, 01:47 PM
I don't know how many where paying attention to what JW Hart was saying tonight but I found it interesting after seeing this thread, I think he may have seen it. He made a comment after White Magic bucked off Robson Palermo tonight that many would consider White Magic not to have any kick cause he kicks more at his belly than have kick over his head, but he always found it harder to ride than a bull who fully extends. I mean White Magic is a solid short round bull that I am sure everyone on here would love to haul even though he doesn't "Kick". I mean I know that I am probably going to have some people call me an idiot or something like that but I thought the purpose was to buck off riders as much as possible. I had a short lived bull riding career do to injury and going off to the service but if you asked someone what was harder to ride White Magic or say Troubadour I know what most would say. I guess I sort of got off the topic a bit, but it seemed like most people on here seemed like they would almost cull a bull for kicking at his belly than extending fully and thought I would point out a bull that I would love to have If Mr. Obama would give me a bail out of some sort. I don't need 100 Million or anything a simple 1 million would be sufficient. :rant:
To me the thing that makes White Magic great is his intensity. His body gets vertical even though his kick isnt extended and he's a hundred miles an hour in any direction. He has all of the factors except extention in his kick. Intensity, direction change, roll, etc. In my mind he's more of an eliminator than one that is an honest kick the lights out bull like Mudslinger.
A. Pearson
04-07-2009, 02:00 PM
A lot of kick pictures , but where's the pictures with a cowboy on his back with lots a kick? Might of missed it !
http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n26/okiebullgod/473Rambo.jpg
This is 473 Rambo when Scotty Lovelace had him.
One of Mitch Terrell's calves @ the Woodward NBBA show last year:
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2048/2420139408_d161990388_o.jpg
This bull is out of 241 Mossy Oak Red. He was the NBBA Year End Open Futurity Champion.
Summerrain
04-07-2009, 07:54 PM
This is Bones :)
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/bones-1.jpg
robbuckingbulls
04-07-2009, 08:58 PM
http://s46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/mick2728/?action=view¤t=freakmachine2.jpg
Summerrain
04-07-2009, 09:06 PM
here you go Mickie :) that is some kick!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/mick2728/freakmachine2.jpg
4B Bucking Bulls
04-07-2009, 09:08 PM
Here is a bull of mine that can kick!!!
http://i229.photobucket.com/albums/ee284/johyattb/codered3.jpg
robbuckingbulls
04-07-2009, 09:08 PM
Thank you
Rebano Ranch Bucking Bull
04-07-2009, 09:44 PM
here you go Mickie :) that is some kick!
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/mick2728/freakmachine2.jpg
Well is this kick or a bull kicking at his belly. I mean I think it is awesome how high he is getting but he doesn't show any extension with his legs. as someone said earlier in a thread this may be considered a bull just getting his butt in the air.
JeremyWillis
04-07-2009, 10:01 PM
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/99/308746672_02a1c9e7c9.jpg
KEITH NABOURS
04-07-2009, 10:03 PM
JEREMY,IS THAT ADAMS ON THE BLACK BULL:rofl:
5-HBulls
04-07-2009, 10:16 PM
Now that's getting all four feet off the ground!
5-HBulls
04-07-2009, 10:32 PM
<a href="http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewImage&friendID=390632320&albumID=1264194&imageID=19678637"><img src="http://hotlink.myspacecdn.com/images02/46/e021b6fb752e46abab8276e2dce057f4/m.jpg" alt="Jitterbug" /></a>
This is what I consider kick.- Both back feet extended fully.
There is something else that can make a bull rank that doesn't extend both feet, it's the bend in their back. Look at all the rank bulls or calves that are really vertical with their feet at their belly. The rank ones have lots of bend in their back, whether it's straight over their head or to either side. Bend in the back can make one rank if they don't have the kick.
I would still rather see one extend both back feet and would rather breed to a bull that kicked out with both feet than a freaky bucknasty eliminator bull that rolls and kicks at his belly.
Thanks
Single R Rodeo Cattle
04-07-2009, 10:33 PM
Well is this kick or a bull kicking at his belly. I mean I think it is awesome how high he is getting but he doesn't show any extension with his legs. as someone said earlier in a thread this may be considered a bull just getting his butt in the air.
I think this is the perfect example of what someone mentioned earlier. That is, it's all in the animals position during the buck/kick cycle and when the photo was snapped. I think this calf was probably fully extended just before the photo was snapped. From my experience of watching videos in slow motion, my observation is the calf's front feet have just hit the ground and his back feet are on the way down and his front feet are just getting ready to leave the ground again.:)
Marty Robinson
04-07-2009, 11:01 PM
belly kickers, Bones, White Magic, Bodacious. Just Culls I guess........:seeya:
robbuckingbulls
04-07-2009, 11:03 PM
http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f117/mick2728/blackbullbucking.jpgHere is another picture of the same bull
Rebano Ranch Bucking Bull
04-07-2009, 11:25 PM
belly kickers, Bones, White Magic, Bodacious. Just Culls I guess........:seeya:
LOL yeah I was wondering about that also Marty if anyone was going to mention Bones or not. If it doesn't rain to much Marty you should come out to Jerry's on Thursday. We are bringing up some of our new bulls from Anna. Would love to see what you think of them. Walter
Marty Robinson
04-08-2009, 07:07 PM
:sarcasm: just razzin you guys. :cheers:
Jennie Shippy
08-14-2009, 03:26 AM
http://i614.photobucket.com/albums/tt226/ra_bulls/IMG_3400.jpg
Are you sure my boys didnt take that pix:) Looks like a pix or two that has been on my camera after they steal it.
bittersweet
03-24-2010, 08:44 AM
BTT..To answer a question..check post #8..one of the first bulls we ever purchased..Cajun Nights..from Jake Stubbs and Chad Scott. That is what I'm looking for..nothing less..
JamesHooks
03-24-2010, 09:46 AM
HEIFER OUT OF 238 HITMAN SHE HAS SOME WHAT I CALL KICK.http://bullbayauction.com/uploaded/rad1B65D3.JPG
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:sarcasm: I thought all "plummers" were just a bunch of flat spinners. Maybe I need to slip ol' #238 through the fence and let him breed some of mine.
Travis Eckroth
03-25-2010, 09:28 AM
this is the Rooster Booster pics i was lookin for.
Im posting this for Hiner Bucking Bulls
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http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/heifer.jpg
http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g61/summerrain114/bullss.jpg
chwyatt
03-25-2010, 09:45 AM
#704 Fandango calf
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/chdrury/09%20Calves/1244175601.jpg (http://s166.photobucket.com/albums/u97/chdrury/09%20Calves/?action=view¤t=1244175601.jpg)
JerryHargis
03-25-2010, 11:25 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i131/jhargis/spot.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i131/jhargis/?action=view¤t=spot.jpg)
4 year old Panhandle Slim son
JeremyWillis
03-25-2010, 11:28 AM
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2630/64/53/1239878507/n1239878507_30239713_683010.jpg
We bucked this bull with a rider the other day for the first time and he gets HIGH in the air. Dirty White Boy son
bittersweet
03-25-2010, 11:49 AM
http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i131/jhargis/spot.jpg (http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i131/jhargis/?action=view¤t=spot.jpg)
4 year old Panhandle Slim son
Is this the one you're selling 1/2 interest in for $1500?? :cigar: Let me go get my piggy bank..
Corey
03-25-2010, 02:41 PM
katich
Great pics. I would like to see four or five kicks like those in a row. Dont believe that will happen. :sarcasm:HS
arbullman901
03-26-2010, 07:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPjjnRbc8SM&feature=player_embedded
Here is alittle kick.
JerryHargis
03-26-2010, 08:56 PM
Is this the one you're selling 1/2 interest in for $1500?? :cigar: Let me go get my piggy bank..
Not the same one I listed, but he could be brought! Everything I've got is for sale
And actually, this bull's been ridden aways & he keeps kicking like that - goes out 2 and turns back.
FowlerRC
03-26-2010, 09:02 PM
Dont get me wrong I want to raise the kind of bulls that you think about as being old school: Getting high in the front, extending up and out in the back, turning back, and doing all that as hard and as fast as they possibly can. But what fun would it be watching a bull riding if they were all like that and you didnt have any of the White Magics, Bones, Just a Dreams, or Crosswired's. Everybody like to see those real electric bulls that will just do anything that their bodies will allow them to do. I would like all the cattle I raise to have a ton of kick like alot of the pics that have been posted. They were really nice looking animals and Im sure you guys are all proud of them and have every right to be. But Im sure that like me most of you wouldnt mind raising a bull that may not have the same kick but will do whatever it takes. Im sorry if I this makes anyone mad but I do agree with what most of you are calling kick I just dont think thats all there is to it.
Moffitt bucking bulls
03-27-2010, 12:15 AM
HERE'S A COW I HAVE OUT OF HOUDINI AND WRANGLER WISHES COW !! ME AND CODY ARE THINKING ABOUT BREEDING TO PURE SMOKE SHE'S GOT A LITTLE KICK
http://i142.photobucket.com/albums/r92/deerdude2000/215DonorPix.jpg
BloydBuckingBulls
09-15-2010, 07:03 PM
btt for David
jonboy
09-15-2010, 10:10 PM
Page 10 Of this Rob Bucking Bulls has no flank on just thought that was cool. I talked with Vernon Hare the other day after a bull riding about how to flank a calf at my place and he told me to buck him once without it even touching, best trip the calf ever had started to think that there are few out there that will kick up a storm and put on a show with no flank at all.
littletex
12-13-2010, 11:05 AM
Finnaly got to bucking these 3 heifers. I still have a few more that I haven't bucked. Really pleased with all of them. These are all plummer heifers.
May have to enter the black one in Summerrain's heifer video futurities
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/BlackBeauty2.jpg
The heifer above is a 2010 model, she is kicking as high and hard as Jeremy Willis's bull previously posted below:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v2630/64/53/1239878507/n1239878507_30239713_683010.jpg
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This is a 2010 heifer below first time bucked:
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/RascalFive.jpg
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
The one below is an 09 model. First time she was bucked, she kicked so hard and high that she flipped over her head. Decided to buck her again. this one is a spinner
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/ColdWasp.jpg
What do you think?
bittersweet
12-13-2010, 02:07 PM
Finnaly got to bucking these 3 heifers. I still have a few more that I haven't bucked. Really pleased with all of them. These are all plummer heifers.
May have to enter the black one in Summerrain's heifer video futurities
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/BlackBeauty2.jpg
The heifer above is a 2010 model, she is kicking as high and hard as Jeremy Willis's bull previously posted below:
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
This is a 2010 heifer below first time bucked:
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/RascalFive.jpg
((((((((((((((((((((((((((((())))))))))))))))))))) )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
The one below is an 09 model. First time she was bucked, she kicked so hard and high that she flipped over her head. Decided to buck her again. this one is a spinner
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/ColdWasp.jpg
What do you think?
You have some very nice heifers..congrats..:cheers:
littletex
12-13-2010, 09:08 PM
You have some very nice heifers..congrats..:cheers:
Thanks Karen
JamesHooks
12-14-2010, 01:13 AM
The one below is an 09 model. First time she was bucked, she kicked so hard and high that she flipped over her head. Decided to buck her again. this one is a spinner
http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo294/littletex_bucket/ColdWasp.jpg
What do you think?
Hector, is that the Stone Cold X Red Wasp daughter, you were telling me about?
littletex
12-14-2010, 09:02 AM
Hector, is that the Stone Cold X Red Wasp daughter, you were telling me about?
Yes Mr.Hooks. :hurray: How about breeding her to #238?
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